SHAKTI TEMPLES

SHAKTI TEMPLES

 

With the power of Shakti and her influence – even this place became more peaceful?

Guruji: She’s always peaceful. That is other people – who are provoking her to do something.

 

It doesn’t exist in the temple of 7 Matrikas? And isn’t it very rare to see the temple of dasha Mahavidyas?

Guruji: No, they are VIDYAS – if you just put them in the temple and start worshiping them – it could be anything. Matrikas also have very mysterious powers: you cannot install them – they’re too powerful to install. Remember the story of the tantric – who builds the temple of Dhumavati and died the most horrible death. It is just like that: you cannot install your school teacher’s statue somewhere, worship it – and then you will learn everything. It’s education: they will teach – and you will learn, not by worshipping them. Even the story of Dronacharya and Ekalavya ended badly.

 

Even the temples of Parvati don’t exist?

Guruji: There are temples – all of Shiva’s family is there, Parvati also; but not separately. Kali is also Parvati.

 

SPECIAL PUJA OF HANUMAN JI

 

Only aghoris do this certain puja of Hanuman Ji; and the first thing is – you have to create a very heavy roti, which is called ‘rot’, sweet rot; then 4 rots are prepared and given to Hanuman Ji as hope. The thing is – you have to take bhiksha. Flour, not from a man or woman: only a eunuch is asked for flour and they give it freely. Then another thing is: go to a person, who has always stood by his dharma of his caste; only sweeper class. They’re still holding their caste dharma – and they are asked to give the flour; and they give it. The third bhiksha is: go to a woman, who does not think of any other man – this thing is always taken from hardcore prostitute. There is no other man in her life!

 and what is puja for him?

Guruji: For having some special favors from Hanuman Ji – some wisdom or some power. It’s a very hard, long process: very few people are successful in that. These three bhikshas – only from these people; otherwise – it will never be possible to do that.

 

SPECIAL PUJA OF HANUMAN JI PART2

 And the sweepers are chosen because they follow their dharma?

Guruji: They follow their dharma, yes. My Guru told me never to insult these three and yogis and sadhus also: you never know who they are. Always be respectful to any prostitute, any eunuch or any sweeper: they have a very different type of power inside. If you’re somehow able to receive a heart-filled blessing from a prostitute – your life will become divine. Which is rare to receive! Eunuchs also: if they bless you – you will become prosperous. Sweepers also: he will never eat sitting on your veranda or something. They will take the food and take it away. But If he agrees somehow and has good feelings for you – yes, prosperity will come. But the hardest thing is to have a blessing from a prostitute.

If you want an example – I can give an example: Swami Vivekananda. He was living as a guest of the king of Khetri somewhere in Rajasthan. He was young and he died very young… One day he went to the court and there was a prostitute dancing. Swami Ji stopped and started to go back; and the prostitute noticed it and began to sing a bhajan: that I am what God has made me, there is no fault of mine that I’m a prostitute. Tears came into Swami Ji’s eyes, he kneeled down in front of her, touched her feet and called her: Ma, please, give me blessings! And she blessed him. See – he became internationally known after that. His life just took so many different turns and he’s remembered – he is a legendary figure. The blessing from the prostitute!

 Very different from blessing from a politician?

Guruji: Of course. Prostitutes are more honored.

I think I’ve already told you the story of Trailang Swami? There was a very big flood in Benares; it was feared that Benares may be swept away by the fury of the Ganges flood. As they say – I heard it in Benares – the king of Benares went to Trailang Swami, he was very famous, known as the living Shiva of Benares. And Swami said – ok, go to a woman, who has never thought of another man in her life; if she will say that “I’ve never thought of another man – o, please, Ganges, control your anger!” So the king announced that – but no woman came forward even if she may not have thought of another man. If nothing happens – then she will have an effect on the whole of her life. The king again went to Trailang Swami; he said – ok, I’ll come. There was a very old prostitute, living in Chawk bazar, where there was a colony of prostitutes. He went and told her that; she began to weep – that I’m randee, I’m a prostitute! He said: please, mother, come! She was brought into a palanquin and she just said these words that Trailang Swami told her – and the water began to recede immediately. And she died on the spot. She was already 90+.

 

Was it very hazardous to ask for such a thing?

Guruji: Who thinks of a prostitute? There is no existence of other men in her case. They have a very special type of power. If she curses a man or anybody – no one can remove it. If she blesses – the blessing will last forever.

I was after my mother to allow me to have some dogs -finally she agreed and I went to a friend of my uncle – please, give me puppies. They were about to come and he said, “only on one condition, you will feed them meat and cook them rice every day – otherwise I will not give you them”. I searched for meat shops and all these things. In Gwalior, there is a place called Chawri Bazar – it was a hardcore prostitute place and there some butchers were selling meat. I was in school then; and I was trying to bring home leftover meat from the butchers; and then some sweepers would come and cook it – nobody would touch it. After coming from school I would go to that place and bring about a half kg. of leftovers every day. One relative saw me, coming and going. After she observed me for a few days she complained to my father: You know? You must look at him, he’s not behaving well nowadays. Father asked: what happened? I’ve seen him going to the prostitute area and coming from there every day! Father said – ok, he’s going, but what were You doing there? (laughing) I was in ninth standard then.

DIFFERENT MANIFESTATIONS OF SHAKTI’S NATURE

 

What are the special powers of Shodashi? She’s not the first Mahavidya…

Guruji: She’s one of the spirits of Shakti herself: she separated herself in different dimensions, not by powers.

 

But how did she become the main one in the system – not Dhumavati, not Tara?

Guruji: Most people are running after prosperity in life: so worshipping Shri is becoming very natural. It’s the biggest motive for a human being. Wherever money is involved – this thing will become famous. Where can you find many men? Wherever there is something very expensive – you will find men there.

 

As I understand – Parashuram, Matsyendranath and other great yogis were the knowers of Shri Vidya?

Guruji: Main prosperity in their opinion is very different.

 

You think people really can attain prosperity only by worshipping her?

Guruji: See, to understand the mystery: without learning nothing will come.

 

But the “work” of Mahavidyas are different?

Guruji: No, they are the steps of the same power.

 

The opinion exists that Dhumavati is controversial to Shodashi – like Alakshmi?

Guruji: They were just trying to explain these things: you’re a woman – you can be happy and you can be angry at times: it’s your nature! They were just describing different angles of the nature of Shakti. From the words illusion always follows.

 

HOW GURUJI BECAME A GURU

 

I did khechari and my Guru told me to receive the second level – so I went there. After, he told me in the temple that I’m going to read chapters of the Gita – which he was doing every day. So, the case now: to do some service for my grandfather; – I’ve never done any service for anyone. He said: – oh, just do a massage. I put my fingers to his shoulder and arm – and very great feelings of fear came suddenly. I felt that it is not a stone or marble, I’m touching the living person. It was scary. He noticed it and said: ok, wait outside. I went outside, thinking what happened. Then after maybe 5-10 minutes he came running from the temple: I stood on my foot thinking I’ve made a mistake – now he’s coming to scold me. He said: yes, now You’re Guru. Everybody agreed – now You’re Guru. And I couldn’t understand the significance of it, it took quite some time. But the day was – 28th of April, morning time, around 8:30.

 

Then You felt the power?

Guruji: Something happened here; but exactly that day I couldn’t understand what happened. There was another young man, who was there when this thing happened – and he sent me with him to Lahiri Mahasaya’s house to pay our respect.

From that day I began to be more stronger physically and my Guru became weak – he became weaker and weaker day by day. This ability for instant answers started from that. When I look back I can connect it.

 

Did You ask Your Guru – he felt this presence of that great power?

Guruji: No, he didn’t like to speak philosophically. It took some time for me to understand, what happened. Suddenly, you don’t understand that…

 

because Your moon was in Sagittarius and then it moved to pisces – so it's the progression of the swadhisthana. You have the creativity to do whatever You want to do; and what You do is totally secure and there is no other variation to do that.

Guruji: I will quote Newton here: I’m standing on the shoulders of the giants. I didn’t want to change. The major change was: not a member of Lahiri Mahasaya’s family became a Guru.

We were not discussing much with the Guru.

 

He explained by himself something to You?

Guruji: I’ve never had any theories – only Kriya yoga. And he allowed me to read Lahiri Mahasaya’s personal diary – that was a big permit. You can read the memories of saints or holy men; but what experiences Lahiri Mahasaya had written – they are matchless. Nobody has even thought about it. That gives bigger hope to Kriya yogis: they are like guidelines to us.

 

In the printed version are they cut?

Guruji: What is published – concerning everything about yogic experiences, most of them are there. Few things about private life – they are not there.

 

What about kaya kalpa, which he was taught?

Guruji: Maybe taught or maybe just given some information: he never tried it.

 

If someone is really immortal – he just has this kaya kalpa like an educational program?

Guruji: The kaya kalpa, if you’re doing it successfully, makes you live longer. That particular type of kaya kalpa should be done for 100 years: this is a big catch here.

 

Before you attain the vajra body?

Guruji: No, any body – so in the same body you can attain everything which is there to be attained.

 

Do you think it’s impossible to attain vajra kaya before 100 years?

Guruji: No, that’s a very different type of achievement.

 

So even vajra body will need this kaya kalpa?

Guruji: No.

…many times we were going the same route Lahiri Mahasaya was doing – it’s a good feeling!

 

MEETING WITH IMMORTALS

 

The meeting with Matsyendranath was on 16th June 2000 at about 11:30 to 12 o’clock, noon time.

When I met my Guru I was going through the Jupiter sub-period in Sun.

They’re saying: only when the seed is planted in the soil – then it starts to transform and grow into something big. Jupiter always supports me.

 

You asked the immortals something?

Guruji: In the very moment you just can think – oh my god, what’s happening? Then you begin to look back and start to think: next time I see him – then we will discuss something. But after 7 years back and the second meeting took place – again I was speechless. I couldn’t say anything. Now I’m not planning to ask; if he comes at least; let us see how it will go.

 

Can we prepare for this thing?

Guruji: What can we prepare?

 

Some stupid questions

Guruji: He already knows that. Suppose Babaji will appear and ask me: who are these idiots? I will say: sir, they are my disciples (laughing).

The first meeting was very serious. During the second meeting he was in a very jovial mood, even using bad words, laughing: that scared me even more. When such a powerful person, who can fry you with the bolt of lightning in a second, begins to smile and crack jokes – you’re scared.

 

The feeling from the immortals – of Babaji and Matsyendranath – were they the same to You?

Guruji: I was more scared of Babaji. You see, when you’re in a school – you’re more scared of the schoolteacher or the headmaster of the school. If you go outside and meet some professor from a university – you’re not that scared. You’re scared of the headmaster of your school. That feeling will be there.

 

But if we talk about power? How can You analyze or describe it?

Guruji: Before Matsyendranath nobody talked to me with such sweetness. He was absolutely relaxed; very different, very peaceful. But even then you’re nervous to a very great level. Two ladies were waiting – but he never introduced me to them and I didn’t dare to ask.

 

They were just listening in on your talk?

Guruji: They were just sitting behind him. Very regal, very beautiful looking and very tall, wearing brick-colored clothes.

 

They were looking like the same age of Matsyendranath or younger?

Guruji: They were young looking ladies – almost same. I can’t say – let’s say thirties.

 

Why is his story connected exactly with a fish?

Guruji: Fish are an example of the greatest of the great discipline. We must learn discipline from the fish. They never cross the border, never come to a land. We cross the border.

 

Such a story exists in different mythologies – when the fish ate the person but remained alive?

Guruji: Even recently, before the second world war – those who were hunting whales killed a whale and when they opened it – found alive, a man inside. It’s an authentic story. They saved him – he was just in between dying stages, the process had begun – but he survived. If it still happens now - Matsyendranath's story is truth.

 

DESTINY OF THE YOGI

What do You think – Your own destiny has different ways?

Guruji: I think my destiny was set from day one when I took my first breath. And now I realize, that destiny is not my destination: it will take me to my destination. I think my destination has already been decided by Babaji – maybe Shiva Ji also.

 

so You think all the experiences of Your life – they were needed? You cannot avoid anything?

Guruji: They were needed to give me some wisdom or knowledge – so you can hear some stories also.

 

Could it be seen in the chart, that the destiny is not fixed?

Guruji: In the chart the future is always probable. And a very good astrologer with highly developed intuition can decipher that. But the future will always remain probable. First you need to know your future – then you can change it. It will happen the way exactly you will do it.

 

It really works only one way?

Guruji: Always.

 

how can you understand that about probability – that it must be, it must not to be?

Guruji: Because you cannot see your future, no glimpse – you’re just going by an astrologically planned situation. They gave so many choices. Probable future means – accurate future we can never decipher; only by going to it. It is the greatest of great mystery: to be able to judge what will be in the future. We all need to know that. But then, if you know the future – you live in fear of it. That is another problem.

 

Some years back we discussed that nobody can predict the yogic path?

Guruji: It may be predicted to a degree – yes, he may take up this path. How far he will go – that will remain probable.

 

Can we create the changes?

Guruji: Create you and your determination – and it all depends on different karmas. Like in the story about a traveler asking the time to get to the city and a wiseman beside the road.

 

Buddha was talking about the void – but he didn’t go further?

Guruji: He was also limited by the standard of his audience. My time is better.

 

Humanity will appreciate it in the future?

Guruji: When jesus was moving – he was beaten and crucified. Now we’re worshipping his crucified body: this is what humanity is doing. His audience was also fisherman's club.

 

When You see the disciple for the first time – can You see how he will progress?

Guruji: I have some ideas, yes. This is not for everybody.

 

I know one place, where the people live in the sin

Guruji: Where?

 

in the hell!

Guruji: Hell may be the most entertaining place. What is the idea of heaven for you?

 

For me it’s joining some enormous shining thing…

Guruji: Go back, this is just a hypothesis: the exact description is given in the bible: you will live in the jungle naked – no toilet, no kitchen, nothing. That is heaven. It is written in the bible! And most of the religions are talking about men going to heaven; they never mention where girls are going. So I have no idea what is the greatest sin: this thing, you should consult a sinner.

 

What is the sin?

Guruji: I have no idea. One womanizer died; and St.Peter met him and said you have committed a great sin! And he answered: but sir, please consider how romantic they were!