ON YOGA TRENDS AND THE FUTURE

Nath yogis were original yogis; whatever yoga people are trying to put — the roots go back to Nath yogis. They are the founders of it: it’s a direct lineage from Shiva Himself. And Matsyendranath was the first human disciple of Shiva. It’s a very strong organization and they don’t give it to worldly people, very strict rules are there.

Are they still exist?

Guruji: Yes, one of the Nath yogis is the chief minister of UP. They usually don’t move around in society. Sometimes fear comes into my heart: maybe Babaji is pulling back this Kriya yoga art from the society. I’ve been discussing it for quite some time and the feeling is growing. The real art has already disappeared from society: they are now commercial points mostly. He has already withdrawn most of it. I may be the last of my time — and already reached smashan: so we don’t know to which side now the lineage will go.

Do You know Swami Rama?

Guruji: I know Swami Rama, yes.

Is it a strong tradition?

Guruji: Swami Rama became a sannyasi; and then he left sannyasa and married a good lady and produced a daughter. And he created a very big medical institute — so we appreciate what he did for the general public. Maybe that was the final renunciation: that he renounced the renunciation itself. But generally in sannyasa tradition it is not accepted. Once you are committed — you are committed forever.

You remember some old American western movies? That’s a typical hero: he appears out of nowhere, shoots some bad people, stays in the town for some time; when every available girl is pregnant — then suddenly he remembers his mission and rides out to the sunset. It’s a typical cowboy film.

Main point: just be honest with yourself.

Human nature: we like to categorize everything — east, west… now please tell me, where the east begins or from where the west ends? But it’s from our point of view the east is east and the west is west — there is nothing.